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ZOMFG! I would slap the shet out of this kid. His high squeaky voice is so annoying. You can see he is not sure what he’s doing, but he can’t turn back. Pussy! ” . . . That actually left a mark for a- about 20 minutes”. What a girl.
Their is absolutely no way in HELL that I would allow my child to speak to me in that fashion. If my children ever raise a hand towards me no words would be exchanged on my part. The problem with most parents today is the fact that they are too busy trying to be a friend and not upset the child. The bible clearly states spare the rod spoil the child. I am a single mother of four children(2 boys&2 girls) 18, 16, 15 and 12.The foundation of respect for others was instilled in them a long time ago. This child has absolutely no respect for his mother. I am praying for the both of them to work this problem out.
Holy s*&(! That fat kid would not have gotten past telling me to shut up before I spelled respect all over him with bare hand! That is just ridiculous! That kid is definately out of balance and mentally unstable to think such thing and then act on it is insane….as much as I’ve argued with my mom, I would, could, never bring myself to slap her or even half way imagine doing it…..wow…this is a new low….this kid needs help!
He would have raise his hand once and it would have never come down. The law calls it child abuse. Back in the day when I was coming up my parents did not give a “D” what you call it. When you disobey them then you were in for it. Now you could attemp to hit them if you want then you would have been calling the police when they finish with you. I think what he did to his mother was a disgrace and they should be brought back on the show and he should apolizge in front of everyone.
This is what happens when you’re not allowed to beat a child’s ass. He apparently feels like he’s her equal. If strict guidelines were implemented from the beginning this would have never had happened. This is a perfect example why a parent shouldn’t be looked at when they whip a child’s but in public. This is a perfect example why CPS should not intervene every time a child cries out for help. The system needs to utilize better discretion when it comes to trying to save a child from discipline as oppose to abuse.
This is so sad. I have five children-three are grown. Even now, they better not talk to me like this. I believe in tearing that tail up. I never got a spanking when I was little, we got our butts whipped.Children do not know how to discipline themselves, that’s the job of responsible adults. Children will take advantage of any power you give them so you have to learn how to let them be themselves, but respect adults. You can establish authority with a glance or a tone of voice with some children, but some need a more personal touch.
I’m a mother of 3 girls (10, 2, and 9 months) and my children would never even think of raising their voice or a hand to me. The mother should of ripped his arm of his body and beat him with it.
Where did this generation of weak parents come from. A few years ago this would have been unheard of. Love your child but teach them proper discipline, otherwise, the irrational child becomes an irrational adult.
I would have like to see the whole episode to hear what Dr. Phil advice to the mother would have been. Being a father of 2 children, none of them would have been able to speak, let alone hit their mother like that. The child is angry, but clearly he has little boundaries. I realy wish this family was around me, the mother would not have had to worry about that child, I would have gone straight to jail.
OH YAH; I FORGOT TO SAY… THAT WOMANS GOING TO BE ON CSI (CRIME SENCE INVESTIGATION…) COMING TO A TV SHOW NEAR YOU SOON… LOL… OH JAJAAAJAJA JAJA OH JAJA
07/01/2008
To All,
The Boy & Dr PHil did a special talk about,the Boy Hitting this Mother.
The Boy told Dr Phil his Mother has HIT him several several times. The Boy also told Dr Phil he was tried of it,and told Dr Phil he HIT his Mother to show her how it felt tobe HIT.The WHOLE Story need’s tobe TOLD Recorrectly.
You know what’s worse than this boy slapping his mother? That we blame him for it all.
She’s the one who “trained” him to treat her like crap and worse-hit her!!!
I feel bad for this child. He’s the one who’s being abused, he’s a child and is only resorting in using the only tools he’s been taught to use while under pressure.
The mother needs to stop “pretending from herself”, that she’s a flippin’ victim.
Can you all see this, too?
She’s awful. She’s using this child to “look” and “feel” like a “victim” so that we could all treat her like a victim and feel sorry for her!!!
She’s an attention-getter by all means.
All that she’s doing is using this innocent child as a means to “victimize” herself- it’s so evident.
And look at us how we’re judging this child who has clearly been
“trained” by his mother to be this way so that she can get the pity that she craves.
What a sick woman and what a poor child who does not know better.
Children are “trained” by their parents, folks.
Children learn how to cope by watching US. That’s how humans learn, look it up.
I’m not defending the actions of the child, by any means.
We are all Perfect, Whole and Complete when we are ALL born—Then we go home to our parents!!!
I understand what you mean about how the whole story needs to be told correctly. So now that we know the boy’s side of the story, what was the mother’s?
In general:
I pretty much agree that there is a serious lack of disrespect in a lot of today’s children. It saddens me, because my generation isn’t that far off from their’s and I don’t understand where it all went downhill.
As far as spanking and punishing goes, there is a huge difference between hitting your children and beating them. It also makes an enormous difference when there’s an outpouring of love after the punishment. No child is ever going to doubt that you really do care about them if you do that. My parents spanked me, but because of how they treated me afterwards and every day I never doubted that they loved and respected me. And I was more willing to respect them for it.
anyway, Harold E Garner, that is THE LAMEST excuse for a child to be disrespectful I ever heard. Oh my Mommy hit my so I just wanted her to know what it felt like? HAHAHA Is that something a kid would say? Sure. Does the child still get punished for hitting Mommy? YUP!
Children need to learn self control, timing, intelligence, and so forth. The child may have felt slighted and angry and struck back (children do that) and it is up to the parent to teach the child that their frustrations should be spoken, respectfully, about whatever is bothering them. The child need to learn to respect others even though they may feel that the other person is not being very respectful. The child also must lean not to bite the hand that feeds you until you can feed yourself… and so on and so forth. I can keep going.
There is no whole story here, the kid should not have hit the Mom. Done deal.
My girls know if they raise a hand to me it’s all over. I do not abuse my kids but have been stern with them since they were toddlers. Mutual respect is needed but children need to know they cant hit or be that way to their parents. He was way outta line. IF his mother has hit him in the past depends on why she did it he may have deserved it…not a beating but spanking yes. My oldest daughter came to me for money when she was 16yrs old and i told her no and in return she called me a F**kin bitch and i slapped her in the mouth and she started yelling at me and then she called the cops on me. I told them yes i did and i’ll do it again if she ever speaks to me in that manner again and if he felt it necessary to arrest me to pls go right ahead cause i could use the vacation. She proceeded to tell him i beat her and when she couldnt produce marks he asked her to stop fabricating things to try and get what she wanted. There are alot of children outta control today cause parents are lazy and dont want too upset the realm and just give in which will always cause problems as the child gets older.
I saw this episode of Dr. Phil and I heard the kid say that his mother has hit him several times. BOO F*@KING HOO. He is a child and she is the parent. If your does not listen to you then you need to beat it into them. If you let your child get away with things like this then your setting them up for disater. Some children you do not need to beat and some you do. soe things do not reguire a beating while others are a must. I guarrentee you if that mother had set solid boundries then that would not have happened. I am a single father of 2 and neither of my kids would ever think of raising there voice to me let alone their hand. That is one instance that i would have to call the police and tell them they have 5min to get to my house because I’m going to kill him. My mother used to beat me as a kid and now i thank her for it. It taught me that there are consaquences for my actions, My ex-wife let her oldest get away with anything he wanted to, guess what he is now in jail, 15yrs old screwed up his life and stays in there till he’s an adult and there is no doubt in my mind that he will be back in. I say this child should have gotten the shit beat of him right there on national TV
That boy’s mother has never hit him. That’s the problem with the children today, they can do something that disrepectful to their parents, and then turn around and say that they did because their parents did it to them, and they’re off the hook because our legal system seems to only want to see the the fault in the parents. Our legal system is failing our children, but they call it ” HELPING OUR KIDS”, bulls-it
I understand what the kid was trying to say, but camera or not, I would have taken off my shoe or belt and whipped his ASS!!!!!! No kid that I take care of is going to hit me and ask me how does it feel. HELL NAW!!!! There is a way to be heard and that was not it. I hope the mom did get a wake up call. If not, I feel for her cause it’s only going to get worse.
i woulda WHOOPED HIS AAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSs!!!!!!omg..you see there is a difference between abuse and jus discipline. now iunderstand this boy is in pain and he needs a different approach to work withh him, but one of these methods will be tearin that ass up for thinkin he could say “shut up ” with his finger in her face.. THEN slappin her!! AND THEN SHE AINT DO NUTHIN. if it was up to me. i woulda beat his ass then tore HER ASS UP too for not doing nothn
WOWWW!!! I would never do that to my mother. I am 11 years old and there is no way that i would ever do that to my own mom. Not even if I am 13, 15, 19, or an adult. I know better. I think that teenagers and children want to be equals with their parents. It is sad that the mother had to be slapped by her own child.
But one question?
Where is the father of this child?
My father is a sailor serving in the USS NAVY and he always tells us to respect our mother and elders. Like my mother’s favorite show says DEAL OR NO DEAL and there is no deal with disrespect.
Spare the rod and spoil the child period. As any parent raising children, we teach our children self morals and values and it’s up to the parent to enforce it. After a certain age a child know right from wrong. From the age of 1 to 5 a child is very impressionable. They do what they see!. If you curse or yell; what type of response do you think you’ll get? It takes a village to raise a child. Parenting is not easy. Today’s Mommies are WUSSES. I have no problems with my 16yr old son, who’s 6′5″, 214lbs. He’s knows that I’m NOT his friend, I’m his MOTHER and he will thank me later. Prayer and Communication is the key. I used to yell allllll of the time until I realized that when I was yelling he would be terrified with fear. Fear no one but GOD. I talked to my son and told him that I’m a new Mommy and that I was sorry. I never yelled at him again. We have a wonderful relationship. We all want to give our children everything and we don’t want to let our children down by any means. Don’t give up. Never stop loving your babies. Prayer is the answer.
To all who might listen. I was given “good butt warmings” when I acted up as a child. I believe it did make me a better person, might not have liked them when they were going on but as I look back on the circumstances that made them happen, I was only spanked once wihtout deserving it. With that said, I did not raise my hand to my daughter but three times in her life, she was three, nine, and 14 years old. Did she deserve it those three times, sure enough did, was I able to converse with her after each and now that she is an adult, yes; would I do it again, better believe it. As with any situation there are times that you should and should not hit anyone, that includes a child. I will tell you this, at no time that I raised my hand did I ever do it when I was angry. That is what leads to abuse of children. How did I learn that, from my mother that gave me but whoopins’!!! She said she realized her children feared her hand because each time she raised it, even to caress them they ducked down to avoid the touch. Now even in that realization did she stop giving us spankings, no she did not, she made the determination that she would no longer hit us with her hand. Did that work, I believe it did. None of her children want to put her in a home now that she is 79 and she gets lots of visits from them. Do her kids love her, sure do, she wants for nothing and always has a table to put her legs under. Did all of us get our buts whooped, you betcha. The old saying my father’s mother had was, If I have to beat you twice for doing the same thing wrong, I didn’t beat you right the first time still holds true. Butt whoopin’ should never be done in anger and only as a lst resort. If you adher to those rules, the crap that kid did to his mother on national TV would not have occurred and they damn sure would not have need Dr. Phil. And oh yes, I am glad I was not nearby either, because I would probably still be at the hospital along with that kid because they would need to operate to get my foot out of his A_S for how far I would of put it up there for striking his mother!!! NUF Said!!!!
I was a kid once too, and I completely understand and respect why my father busted my bottom. I want to add that this is not a result of poor parenting, but of a whole world that is lacking values, morals, and altogether failing the child. God intended there to be two parents for a reason…anyone know where the father was? Well considering divorce rates I will assume that is the case since dad was not there to back the mother up. Child protection does have a part, but so do our schools, and so do our judges, as well as the rest of the world around him. In many divorces there is parent playing parent with the child to be stuck in the middle…and when they don’t get their way, well then they cry abuse and attempt to get what they can out of the other parent. Yet you have to watch your P’s and Q’s if you want custody, and to remain the custodial parent. I’m not trying to make friends with my child, but I do have to keep them safe…and in our senario of the other parents being drug dealers…I also have to do my best to make my home a place my child wants to live in. In this case…that behavior was completely unacceptable, and though I may not have reacted in front of the world…when we got home that child would find out real quick the difference between being the child and the adult…he would have lost everything until he earned it back by being respectful. If I didn’t donate it to someone much more deserving. He’d get two outfits…one to wash and one to wear I’m not even sure he’d get the benefit of using my washing machine. possibly I’d let him use the dryer…but if he could not care for two outfits then he’d suffer the natural consequence of his decision. There are other ways of teaching thick headed children.
WTF!!!! Did you see how she just shut up when he told her to. WTF!!!!! My child would have been picking himself up off the ground if ever talked to me like that. I’m a mother of three and my middle girl is brave sometimes and raises her voice at me. Just the other day, we had us an old fashioned beat down cause of that. I would go to jail before I was disrespected like by a child. OH HELL NAW!!!!!!Over my dead body!!!!!! would a child slap me in the face and live to see the next day!!!!!
This child needs to be shown a firm form of discipline and taught respect for elders (his parents inclusive). However, as a previous reader/writer noted, he should also be shown that he is loved and respected by the parents even though he was corrected using a physical method (if that should be the case). All discipline should not be physical; however, in my opinion, some situations require it. I firmly believe that a child should understand exactly what they are being disciplined for and re-assured that they are no less loved because they made a bad decision. They are being corrected so that maybe in the future, based on the parent’s enlightenment of the path the child should’ve taken in a given situation, they will give their choices more thought before acting on them.
This really shock me but I totally think there is more of what is going on on that boy’s life, he looks like he has low selfesteem issues and also his mom disrrecpect him to make him mind. i think he is hurting and he is asking for a mom to step in an put bounderies with love and respect. by no mean i think what he did is acceptable in any way but i think he needs self love and understanding that mom’s is backing him up in anything but that slap in the face went way way way on top of anything i would have ever done or any person that loves and respect his parents you have to know bounderies and i knew that as mad as my parents made me not to ever talk back in any way disrespectful or hurtful. I totally think this kid is being hurt at school or mom is not giving him the attention he needs and at this time a psychologist needs to step in for at lest a year to guide this kid into a normal young boy. i wish him all the best because if not we (society) have to deal with him later when he becomes an adult.
You see, that is why I love the fact that Im an African. Where a Childs ass can be whoped , but the truth is that if this child was brought up well he would not have degenerated to this level.
About beating can someone tell me if the beating your parents gave you made you a better person or made you hate them . The truth is that the discipline with or without beating that parents give makes you who you are and albeit a better person.
This Childs action is not just a result of his lack of correct upbringing , but this is as a result of The whole lot of Rights that America stands for and shouts about. When a child can pick up the phone and dail 911, for his/her parents for an ordinary spanking. When the officials will remove a child from the loving embrace of parents, when parent treat kids with kid gloves just to satisfy the authorities. When if you spank a child you enter trouble. When if you child cries a nosey neighbour dails 911 for you, when the Authorities love your children more than you love them.
Infact this is an abomination in my side of the globe, a passerby will stop on the road pick a cain flog an erring child whom she didnt know before.
A neighbour will correct your child and come later at night to report the child to the parents.
But by the way , is there anything like parenting in US anymore?, what does the word parent mean?. = Father and Mother ‘QED’
This boy is just a microcosm of the level of moral decedence seen in America supported by the Authorities on the basis of Human Rights, and orchestrated by Holywood et al.
The only solution for America is to got back to what thier founding fathers taught them , get the bible back to school. Get God back to thier system.
Glad I’m an African.
OMG. I was so afraid of my mother. I knew if I ever hit her she would have knocked the snot out of me. My fear of course was probably unreasonable but it worked for her. I never disobeyed her and NEVER hit her!!!! YIKES. I gasped out loud when I saw this.
KUDOS to the mom for holding her composure. He is spoiled and needs to learn to control his emotions in a reasonable way.
First of all the mother looks afraid of this child. It is not his fault he is out of control. She looks afraid to confront him. Children sense when you are afraid and they act on it. He knows he can speak to his mother this way and there will be very little consequence.
The mother needs to take control and act like a mother “Spare the rod, spoil the child”!!!!! There is nothing wrong with your children being afraid of you. They should be afraid!! My child is 18 and she will never raise her hand or her voice to me. And believe I have not had to spank her in many many years. She learned respect when she was little and that has stayed with her.
This is crazy. Parents are too concerned these days with being their kids friend. I am 31 and it is only after leaving for college and entering the real world that my mom became my best friend. Despite that, our family was, and still is close. I remember it only taking a single look for me to realize that I was doing something wrong and that I better stop if I did not want to feel her wrath. I am from a country where disciplining a child has only now become an issue. Where I am from, we got disciplined in school, from neighbors, and other relatives. I agree we should protect our children, I have one of my own. But how much protecting are we doing when we neglect to teach them the simple principles of life. RESPECT being one of them. Yes we say, you give respect to get respect. I’m sorry, that rule does not pertain to kids. They are suppose to do what they are told. The Bible does say “spare the child spoil the rod” and it also tells our children to “honour their father and mother” (Exodus 20:3-17). It sure had nothing in there about respect. My daughter knows at 6 years old what is expected of her. If she does something wrong that she is going to be disciplined for, I have her tell me what she did, and then what she should have done. That way, she knows why she’s getting it. Most of the time, it still just takes that look. I have also walk her around our beautiful house and her lovely room that she has to herself with all of her toys, tv, dvd/vcr player, computer, bookself full of books, etc, and tell her, if she decides to be bold enough to think to call CPS, I will make the call for her myself. But I make it clear to her that everything in the house, will stay in the house. I know she is only 6, but her dad and I find it necessary to instill these things in her now while she is young and pray that they stick with her as she grows. We have to put some sort of fear back into our kids, especially with the increase of peer pressure and media influence. As my husband (her dad) says, he prefers to discipline her now, tough and with love, than for her to be disciplined by police later. All I know is, with this kid, I might have been going to JAIL!!!!
His mother need to use some of that old school discipline, she can’t allow herself to be caught up in trying to be his friend. This displayed attitude of the child has probably happened before and she may have allowed it one to many times. It may be a little to much for her now because she has let him see that she can be taken advantaged of and pushed around. I don’t know why so many parents allow their children to talk back, she needs to kick off in his little ass and worry about the law official later.
Y’all know the Bible also says “He who spares his rod HATES his son, But he who loves him disciplines him promptly” Proverbs 13:24
I remember (vaguely) beginning to get into a shouting match with my mom (I was 15 at the time). The next split second, I blinked and I was literally laying under the kitchen table–I was shocked into SILENCE. My mother cooly walked away, and continued drinking her ice tea.
After I got up off the floor, much humbled and RESPECTFUL, my mother sat me down, and quietly gave me specific instruction on how I WILL respond to her in the future, and what she wanted me to do…AND I DID IT. I’m almost 60, and I still remember that lesson. That particular incident was a turning point for me. I believed myself to be my mother’s equal; she SHOWED me that day that I will NEVER be all the woman she is… and I am still not. My mother is 79 years old. I am strong, independent, stable, and so is my adult child.
Does anybody remember the documentary “Scared Straight”?…. That little gremlin needs it… and his mother needs a vacation.
Any mother who withstands this kind of behavior is NOT a real mother.
How could she sit there and take abuse from a child she is feed, clothing and sheltering? I hope Dr. Phil clued her in on how parnethood is supposed to work.
Wow,
I was forwarded this email and did not see the episode, wish I had.
I have read all the responses hoping to take some learning and so called parenting skills away…and have this tid bit to say….
I am a divorced, single, very loving mother of a 5 year old boy. His father loves and sees his son “every other weekend” I am concerned with the way people phrase “because of his parenting.” I am going through some tough times with my child disrespecting others to include myself in that group. I have taken a look at my parenting and I believe that I am doing okay, with the exception of “I did not teach my child to be disrespectful but he is certainly showing just how disrespectful he can be!
I do wonder about how, what, and where this generation is learning such unexceptable behavior, I didn’t do it and I do not believe I am teaching it; but the attitude sure seems to be there!
Do onto others as you would have them be done to you?
My 3 are adults. They were spanked, punished as needed, given chores and taught that their father and I had the last word. We taught respect by giving it and never punched or elbowed them. Our son is larger than his dad and would never consider raising his hand to either of us. The two oldest have finished college and the son is a senior, I don’t think we did bad considering two have learning disablities. We are their parents not their friends, we are who they turn to for advise and comfort. We have a solid marraige of values and passed that on to our childern as well. Parents must remember that their responiblity is from day one, not just when they are big enough to hit you.
This kid will grow up to be a menance to society. I would have kicked that, you know what right on Dr. Phil. What did God say, “Spare the rod, spoil the child.”
I have 2, and 11 and 9 year old boy and girl respectivly. I am a single parent. I have taught them from the time they could speak that you can go through life with 1 hand. On each finger you have: MANNERS, DIGNITY, INTELLIGENCE, INTEGRITY AND RESPECT. If you have a decision to make just look at your hand and it will tell you what to do. And if you mess with any one of those fingers they will come together and create a slap that will toast your buns. I am not their friend I am their father and I will always show them the way. It can be the easy way or the hard way but in the end the right thing will be done. I hug them, I kiss them, I tickle them, and will fit my foot in their hind quarters if necessary. This process starts at an extremely early age and continues throughout. This child has taken advantage for a very long time and an attitude adjustment from my perspective should be sudden and completely accompanied with an understanding that though it hurts, his mother loves him. Obvously there are plent of underlying dynamics at play here.
Nobody deserves their kids, more than the parents. If she won’t invest the time “now” that it takes to properly raise and train her child, then she will deserves whatever she allows.
Well first of all that would never be one of my kids and second he would of been picking his lips up off the ground for the smart mouth and his finger would not be functional anymore due to the pointing. He needs a good butt whipping. Always respect your mother you only get one.
This is a classic reason of how things have changed in the U.S. over the years. Today’s society is worse than when parents were growing up. Some of the blame goes to the system which prohibits parents from straightening out their kids the “old-fashioned way” and some goes to the parents for not establishing their roles firm enough. Unfortunately enough, society suffers as a result of how the laws are today. These unruly kids carry that “I got away with it” attitude around and end up being problems as adults. There is a fine line between whipping your kid and abusing him/or her because you’re upset with something they did. Leaders who implemented the rules, need to re-think their decision and understand the impact it has throughout the country.
Where is the father? This is not something that just happened overnight this was brewing over years of not applying the right form of discipline. I know what CPS says but I follow what the Word of God says. I believe in spare the rod spoil the child so, I withhold not the rod from mine. As a mother of sons who have already outgrown me, I know how hard it is to raise boys. However, my will is stronger than theirs and I established long time ago that I am the mother and they are the children and we are not equal. I pray he is not repeating what he sees someone else doing to his mother. The bottom line is this child needs some serious help, a lot of prayer and a good ole old fashion butt whipping.
I saw the episode as well, and it appears as if the mother is still grieving too much over the loss of her older daughter that she ignores the poor kid. It’s her own fault- his behavior is waking her up to be the parent she is supposed to be. He feels ignored and neglected. He is grieving in his own way too for his sister. This tragic event should have brought them closer, not futher apart. Other than that, we have no right to pass judgement on others- ESPECIALLY when we don’t know the whole situation. There is no excuse EVER to lay a hand on your child (in anger), as long as you’ve been the parent you’re supposed to be all along: guiding your child in a relationship of mutual respect and love.
I WOULD HAVE WORN HIS LIL ASS OUT!!!!!! AINT NO WAY IN THIS WORLD HE WOULD STILL BE LIVING TO THIS DAY HAD HE RAISED HIS VOICE. OH HELL NO!!!!!! I WOULDVE TOOK A HAMMER AND KNOCKED DA FUCK OUT OF HIM!!!!! AND TOLD HIM IF HE WANNA CALL DA POLICE, FIND YO OWN PHONE, AND I WILL DIAL DA NUMBER FOR YOU!!!! HOW U LIKE DAT!
OH MY GOD!!!! I cannot BELIEVE this!! If I had tried anything close to that when I was a child, I’d probably just be waking up from my coma now – 30-something years later!!
Until and unless God does a rewrite, I’m going to assume He really meant those parts about ‘if you beat your child with a rod, it will not kill him’ and ‘who a father loves, he disciplines’ (probably not exact quotes, please forgive me).
But you know what? You can’t really fault the child. A child will do whatever he or she is allowed to do. This has been building and building, and this probably isn’t the first time he has raised his hand to his mother. It’s like stretching a rubber band. The more you allow it to stretch, the bigger it will get. The mother (and possibly father? don’t know-didn’t see the show) is/are entirely responsible for this child’s behavior. Absolutely no respect for his mother at all. And if he doesn’t respect his own mother, that brings down his respect for all adults. But I bet you, he probably has some relatives, or teachers, or SOMEONE that he knows he couldn’t pull this kind of stunt with or he’d find himself picking himself up off the floor. Children know WHAT they can get away with and WHO they can get away with it with.
We have to also remember that kids do as we do not as we say! He was talking about how mother spoke over him and didn’t allow him to talk and elbowed him, which hurt him (left a mark and hurt his feelings). So, in return, that is how he is learning to act. I in no way would have stood for this and would have immediately walked away and let it soak in with him for a long time, otherwise I would have been arrested! Absolute disrespect! I am curious what his punishment was and what Dr. Phil says about the whole episode. Kids are kids and unfortunately they learn more from us than we think, they just apply them differently. Best of luck!
The mother should have turned the other cheek. I mean she should have spun 360 degrees coming back with a hook, uppercut, and haymaker.
Then some other responsible adult should lay a hand or two on her for allowing a child to speak that way to an adult. Obviously, this ws ot the first time.
When I grew up the children asked the parents for timeout from getting their behinds wupped. Now the parents send the children to timeout instead of wupping their behinds.
Children are no longer trained that they do not have a choice of acting sensible. Non-conformancement physical re-enforcement from the parent.
The mother should have turned the other cheek. I mean she should have spun 360 degrees coming back with a hook, uppercut, and haymaker.
Then some other responsible adult should lay a hand or two on her for allowing a child to speak that way to an adult. Obviously, this ws ot the first time.
When I grew up the children asked the parents for timeout from getting their behinds wupped. Now the parents send the children to timeout instead of wupping their behinds.
Children are no longer trained that they do not have a choice of acting sensible. Non-conformancemence meant physical re-enforcement from the parent.
I was shocked and felt sorry for the mother. Knowing my anger at times, I would have hurt him! No respect whatsoever! I have a 20yr old daughter, 18yr old son, and a 14yr old dghtr, I wish they would! She held her control though, (the mother). See that’s why I don’t hardly ever hit my kids,cause I’ll hurt them. My daughter (20) has been vey disrespectful with me when she was younger, but now that she has a baby girl (14months), it will come back on her. So glad for Karma!
Only in a white family could this happen! Black, Latino, West Indians, even American Indians (excuse me) Native americans would make sure he never ever raised that arm again!!!!
Yes, you need to understand why the son is as uspset with his mother as he is. Obviously he has some big issues. Why??? Not enough attention? Also, he is being given an opportunity to set down with his mother face to face in a situation that is not usually given, to be an equal, and express himself and how he truely feels. He may have never reacted this way under normal conditions. He may have kept it in and become our next postal, shooting up some place full of innocent people. After raising a son that thought he should be able to do anything he wanted whenever he wanted without restraints and no explanation you could give him was good enough to tell him his behavior was not acceptable, it is difficult to continue to show respect and not just react. My son enformed me at a very young age, 6 or 7, that because I had spanked him at all for any reason meant that I did not respect him, therefore, he did not have to respect me. No back up from the father until years later when I said I had had enough and would no longer deal with him. Then I had to pull my husband off of the child when he got the same treatment I had been receiving. Yes, sometimes it is a spoiled brat that has been given to much authority, sometimes it is a very strong willed child that just will not be controlled, sometimes it is an unattentive parent that neglects. We need more information.
This is amazing, I just explained the problem with this to my kids while we watched this just in case they thought about trying it someday. Send mommy’s ass to me first for a week cause she needs to be reraised. Then send that kid to my house and I will set some rules of mutual respect, love and discipline in his life. She is raising this kid to be a damn unabomber.
This is so sad. Obviously both mom and son need help desperately.
Again, spare the rod, spoil the child. I did not see the episode, but I
wonder how Dr. Phil handled it. They both need to be in therapy. I
have a 6′3′ 250lb. son who will not dare raise his hand at me for he knows I will knock the living deadlights out of him. But parenting starts when they are born. Love is the key. You must be very firm with children.
I just could not believe this child hit his mother. And she was still pleading
with him. Dr. Phil Where are you!!!
Naw! Hell No!!!
No kid is going to talk to me that way and still be able to talk without knowing who is the boss. Let alone hit me. No way. As a parent, you are in charge. It is not your job to be the childs best friend and not a wimp that gives in at a little whining or crying. No means no and if that were my child, he would be on the floor after he raised his voice to me like that. He wouldn’t get a chance to slap me. That is what is wrong with America’s children today. Parents are too much of a pussy to teach respect. They are too afraid of agencies that the government has given the powers of God too. They let Doctors put kids on psyco drugs whether they need it or not and believe that their may be actually something wrong with their kid. The only thing wrong with most of these misbehaving rude disrespectful brats in America today is, they don’t get their ass spanked enough when they are a the rigt age before it goes too far because of chicken shit parents. There! I said it.
And before some of you social workers out there jump to conclusions, no I didn’t beat my children. I didn’t have to. I taught them respect and busted their little ass when they needed it. By the time they were 6 or 7 years old, they never needed another spanking. If they forgot who was in charge at that time, they lost privilages such as bicycles or stereos or video games. And they didn’t get them back until specified set time of grounding was over. This taught them honer and respect for rules and regulations and that Mom wasn’t going to give in to all the whining or complaining that it wasn’t fair. They learned that if they did something wrong, they had to give up something. They had more respect in their little finger than kids today have in their whole body. They are all grown now and have children of their own. They are very respectful adults and have some great kids as well. They will tell you that it never hurt them and they surely never got as many as they should have but they also never got one that they never needed either. Funny how just a small amount of discipline will do huh?
I’ll get off the soap box now. It just burns me up to know what pussys we have out there for parents nowadays. Geeesh! Mom Dad Grow Up!
All of these comments: “I would have taken off my shoe or belt and whipped his ASS!!!!!!” and “Holy s*&(! That fat kid would not have gotten past telling me to shut up before I spelled respect all over him with bare hand!” ETC ETC You posters, you are all ignorant!
Can’t you see this child is just DEMONSTRATING how his mother treats him?! I’m sure he was coached through this scene to not hold back and to give her a taste of her own medicine. He is FED up!
This is the boy who leaves his house as soon as he is 18. (Or sooner) The one who treats women like crap when he gets older. The one with low self-esteem. The one with absolutely no idea what to do with himself because he wasn’t guided properly.
Thank the Lord God Almighty I don’t have kids, and that my folks had only 1. If my kid did that, I’d probably be finding myself a good lawyer. Or better idea. I’d send that kid to Iraq or Afghanistan. Or, drop him off in downtown Baltimore and let him out drive off, no look back.
Respect given = Respect earned. Period. Obviously, if this mom really is the spineless fool she appears to be, than she deserves to lose points bigtime in the kids’ eyes. Yes, its a damn shame it came to this. A kid should never hit his Mom or Dad. But what do you expect if you don’t teach your kids respect and discipline (however its done)? Or if they got a problem and you ignore it? (Think Columbine)
Of course, some kids are stubborn to the core. In an argument with Dad once, I hit him squarely in the chest. Words had failed obviously and I was NOT about to back down. He hit back, Mom bitchslapped me. The only reason I backed down was to keep the roof over my head, at least till I was 18. Didn’t score them respect in my book.
It looks like my prior post was removed. Ok, here ‘goes.
A kid shouldn’t hit his mom, but if she is doing a crappy job, she forfeits any respect from the kid (or anyone else). I mean, she
a) didn’t teach him respect,
b) let himwalk al over her,
c) let him eat too damn much, setting him up for such LOVELY health.
d) Ignored his obvious mental health issues
She deserved a bitchslap. Not from the kid but someone. And kids that troubled? Physical force is useless. Send them to an institution, boot camp, adoption, 3rd world, drop off in inner city. She didn’t do her job, and paid the price.
Hmm…hit the kid with the hammer? Whip his tail into submission? Not for this kid. That won’t do jack, except maybe get you lying in chalk once he heals up. Or at least a nice little cell for a few decades. Better idea:
Take him for a trip to the inner city, and drive him through all the rough neighborhoods. Have him work in a soup kitchen or halfway house for a week. Send him with missionaries to a war-torn or 3rd world country. In a week or less, he’ll be mind-whipped into respect. Simple, valuable, leaves not a mark. CPS can do their jobs, and he’ll be less likely to hunt you down for revenge later.
Mother of three. This is the next generation of kids. Thank the lawyers & law makers for taking our rights & ability to discipline our children (without abusing them) now kids have no respect for adults. I guess lawyers and prisons are going to have their hands full.
I agree w/Elsa. Children live what they learn. I learn’d from a very young age who the parents were, and what role everyone had w/in the family. I grew up in a 5 family home w/all relatives. This was in a neighborhood where, if your family weren’t home and the neighbor w/the one who saw you misbehave, well, it was @ their discretion to discipline you.
The “hood” was all about looking out for “ours”. You respect’d EVERYONE!!
Yes, I got my ass whupped PLENTY of times, and yes, I am a better adult and parent because of it.
My children are well behaved, I don’t know what they’ll do when I’m not around, but I know what they WON’T do when I’m not around. Get it!?
Know’g that they’ll have to answer to ME! Trust me, I know there were times and they may have wanted to say or do something, we’ve all gone through it, but knew to check it, keep quiet and keep it moving!
Yes, the mom definitely needs counseling. Has anyone every wonder’d, Where’s the dad? Is this they way he treats her? Then the son is just a trickle down. Did her father treat her mom and every other woman (that he could get away w/that shit) that way.
If this is her only child, then she came from abuse.
This family’s waters run DEEP!!
Pray for him and for me. Cause we’re both gonna need it. Him for feeling the wrath of feeling the first thing I could lay my hands on and me to get out of jail.
Smacking and hitting is not always the answer. Choking the hell out of their ass – is. My daughter hit me back one day, which I never thought that she would and I choked the hell out of her. Every gasp of breath she took, she thought about how it could very well be her last. The thing is, you want to scare the hell out of them and not leave any evidence. Show them who has the advantage and never appear afraid, it works, I’m telling you. We are the best of friends now, and she ain’t ever tried that sh*t again. LMAO – Happy parenting!
You can hear in the kid’s voice that he is troubled. There is definitely something within him that is causing this angry outward expression. Additionally, I question the mother’s ability to control the child. I’d bet that this is not the first time the child has been disrepectful. In short, I believe that society has fallen and our kids are one of its many negative manifestations. Additionally, I believe that every child should have the element of fear of their parents — not to the point of being terrified but just like we fear the wrath of our Heavenly Father so should our earthly children fear their earthly parents!
I saw this episode of Dr. Phil…even he said that he would have dealt with him–of course he didn’t say how..but when’s the last time you heard of any television psychologist saying it’s okay to spank you kids. The only thing kids learn from getting whippings is to be violent. That’s why there are so many violent people in prison–because people whip their children.
Parents for thousands of years have been getting the whole “dicipline-through-capital-punishment” thing wrong and now society needs psychologists and the US Government to determine the best way to raise sensible, productive human beings. (Are you hearing any crickets yet?)
Truthfully, thinking back, my mother wasn’t the nicest person in the world. I always felt she was jealous of her children and the relationship between the siblings. She yelled, screamed and cursed you out–and beat your ass to boot, but yet in still, it would never have occured to me to do those same things TO my mother–I just would never have. Even though she had plenty of short-comings as a mom, I still respected her as my MOTHER–as the person who gave birth to me. Through all that damn yelling, she still bought me cloths, cooked me diner, made sure I wasn’t barefoot going to school and came to my track meets.
Not everybody’s personality and patience is suited for motherhood, but if you happen to have one, still, you don’t disrespect her. I think mothers do the best they can and you should respect them for they do do.
Off the soap box…now, as for that video…I’d have kicked that ass, gave him the phone to call the cops, went to jail and when I got out that night, kicked his ass again–gave him the phone again and dared him to call the cops…he would have gotten my drift…
There are some serious underlying issues within her household obviously. I am a mother of three children and I can’t even imagine one of them ever speaking to me in that tone let alone slapping me in the face. She needs to pray and ask the Lord to keep her from going to jail or putting her child in the hospital.She also needs to seek spiritual guidance and counseling about how to raise her son and how to “get a backbone”, some strength, or something. It’s obvious that she needs help. You can see it through her child’s behavior.
I would beat the living shit outta that kid, I’d beat his ass til he one big blob of puss, I’d beat the fat outta him, then when he was outta fat, I’d beat the living outta him, and when he starts bitching at me, I’d slam a sledgehammer onto his nuts and feed his ass to the cats. Cats got nine lives worth of feeding.
I know a Nigerian family who had an out of control child. His grandfather slapped the boy and the boy called the police on him. His mother finally became convinced that the United States was not a good place to raise a child so she took him back to Nigeria with her. The boys grandfather was waiting at the airport and as soon as the boy got off the plane the grandfather spanked him several times and pointed at the nearby police and said “Go run over to those Nigerian police over there and tell them that your grandfather was spanking you and see what they do.”
Child abuse is unacceptable, but the idea that spanking is bad came into popular culture with absolutely no data to back it up. American culture is overly permissive and we are falling behind other cultures who understand the difference between parent and friend.
June 6, 2008 at 12:46 pm
What’s funny is to watch this without the sound on, and make up dialogue with the kid speaking in a italian mob accent. So awesome….
June 6, 2008 at 12:48 pm
or how about this “Karl Rove………The Early Years”
June 26, 2008 at 7:30 pm
ZOMFG! I would slap the shet out of this kid. His high squeaky voice is so annoying. You can see he is not sure what he’s doing, but he can’t turn back. Pussy! ” . . . That actually left a mark for a- about 20 minutes”. What a girl.
June 27, 2008 at 9:06 am
Their is absolutely no way in HELL that I would allow my child to speak to me in that fashion. If my children ever raise a hand towards me no words would be exchanged on my part. The problem with most parents today is the fact that they are too busy trying to be a friend and not upset the child. The bible clearly states spare the rod spoil the child. I am a single mother of four children(2 boys&2 girls) 18, 16, 15 and 12.The foundation of respect for others was instilled in them a long time ago. This child has absolutely no respect for his mother. I am praying for the both of them to work this problem out.
June 27, 2008 at 9:45 am
Holy s*&(! That fat kid would not have gotten past telling me to shut up before I spelled respect all over him with bare hand! That is just ridiculous! That kid is definately out of balance and mentally unstable to think such thing and then act on it is insane….as much as I’ve argued with my mom, I would, could, never bring myself to slap her or even half way imagine doing it…..wow…this is a new low….this kid needs help!
June 27, 2008 at 3:18 pm
That’s why I don’t have kids because if I did it would never have gotten this far. He would’ve been straightened out as soon as he could talk.
June 27, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Someone should put a foot up that kids ASS
Then slap the SHIT right out of him
June 28, 2008 at 4:30 am
He would have raise his hand once and it would have never come down. The law calls it child abuse. Back in the day when I was coming up my parents did not give a “D” what you call it. When you disobey them then you were in for it. Now you could attemp to hit them if you want then you would have been calling the police when they finish with you. I think what he did to his mother was a disgrace and they should be brought back on the show and he should apolizge in front of everyone.
June 28, 2008 at 10:06 am
This is what happens when you’re not allowed to beat a child’s ass. He apparently feels like he’s her equal. If strict guidelines were implemented from the beginning this would have never had happened. This is a perfect example why a parent shouldn’t be looked at when they whip a child’s but in public. This is a perfect example why CPS should not intervene every time a child cries out for help. The system needs to utilize better discretion when it comes to trying to save a child from discipline as oppose to abuse.
June 29, 2008 at 11:58 am
This is so sad. I have five children-three are grown. Even now, they better not talk to me like this. I believe in tearing that tail up. I never got a spanking when I was little, we got our butts whipped.Children do not know how to discipline themselves, that’s the job of responsible adults. Children will take advantage of any power you give them so you have to learn how to let them be themselves, but respect adults. You can establish authority with a glance or a tone of voice with some children, but some need a more personal touch.
June 30, 2008 at 9:07 am
I’m a mother of 3 girls (10, 2, and 9 months) and my children would never even think of raising their voice or a hand to me. The mother should of ripped his arm of his body and beat him with it.
July 1, 2008 at 9:50 am
Where did this generation of weak parents come from. A few years ago this would have been unheard of. Love your child but teach them proper discipline, otherwise, the irrational child becomes an irrational adult.
July 1, 2008 at 12:09 pm
I would have like to see the whole episode to hear what Dr. Phil advice to the mother would have been. Being a father of 2 children, none of them would have been able to speak, let alone hit their mother like that. The child is angry, but clearly he has little boundaries. I realy wish this family was around me, the mother would not have had to worry about that child, I would have gone straight to jail.
July 1, 2008 at 3:33 pm
YOU GOT TO GIVE REPECT TO GET REPECT… AT LEASE THAT’S WHAT THAT LITTLE BOY IS TRYING SAY…
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July 1, 2008 at 4:26 pm
07/01/2008
To All,
The Boy & Dr PHil did a special talk about,the Boy Hitting this Mother.
The Boy told Dr Phil his Mother has HIT him several several times. The Boy also told Dr Phil he was tried of it,and told Dr Phil he HIT his Mother to show her how it felt tobe HIT.The WHOLE Story need’s tobe TOLD Recorrectly.
July 2, 2008 at 2:27 am
Oh… his mom hit him first?
Well that totally changes everything… if you’re a moron.
Man… if i tried to hit my dad everytime he hit me, my ass would look like a big slab of uncooked bacon.
I got my ass whupped when i disrespected my parents and I am eternally grateful to them for doing so.
July 2, 2008 at 2:30 am
You know what’s worse than this boy slapping his mother? That we blame him for it all.
She’s the one who “trained” him to treat her like crap and worse-hit her!!!
I feel bad for this child. He’s the one who’s being abused, he’s a child and is only resorting in using the only tools he’s been taught to use while under pressure.
The mother needs to stop “pretending from herself”, that she’s a flippin’ victim.
Can you all see this, too?
She’s awful. She’s using this child to “look” and “feel” like a “victim” so that we could all treat her like a victim and feel sorry for her!!!
She’s an attention-getter by all means.
All that she’s doing is using this innocent child as a means to “victimize” herself- it’s so evident.
And look at us how we’re judging this child who has clearly been
“trained” by his mother to be this way so that she can get the pity that she craves.
What a sick woman and what a poor child who does not know better.
Children are “trained” by their parents, folks.
Children learn how to cope by watching US. That’s how humans learn, look it up.
I’m not defending the actions of the child, by any means.
We are all Perfect, Whole and Complete when we are ALL born—Then we go home to our parents!!!
July 2, 2008 at 2:37 am
To Harold:
I understand what you mean about how the whole story needs to be told correctly. So now that we know the boy’s side of the story, what was the mother’s?
In general:
I pretty much agree that there is a serious lack of disrespect in a lot of today’s children. It saddens me, because my generation isn’t that far off from their’s and I don’t understand where it all went downhill.
As far as spanking and punishing goes, there is a huge difference between hitting your children and beating them. It also makes an enormous difference when there’s an outpouring of love after the punishment. No child is ever going to doubt that you really do care about them if you do that. My parents spanked me, but because of how they treated me afterwards and every day I never doubted that they loved and respected me. And I was more willing to respect them for it.
July 2, 2008 at 2:40 am
Word press has video? lol
anyway, Harold E Garner, that is THE LAMEST excuse for a child to be disrespectful I ever heard. Oh my Mommy hit my so I just wanted her to know what it felt like? HAHAHA Is that something a kid would say? Sure. Does the child still get punished for hitting Mommy? YUP!
Children need to learn self control, timing, intelligence, and so forth. The child may have felt slighted and angry and struck back (children do that) and it is up to the parent to teach the child that their frustrations should be spoken, respectfully, about whatever is bothering them. The child need to learn to respect others even though they may feel that the other person is not being very respectful. The child also must lean not to bite the hand that feeds you until you can feed yourself… and so on and so forth. I can keep going.
There is no whole story here, the kid should not have hit the Mom. Done deal.
July 2, 2008 at 6:50 am
My girls know if they raise a hand to me it’s all over. I do not abuse my kids but have been stern with them since they were toddlers. Mutual respect is needed but children need to know they cant hit or be that way to their parents. He was way outta line. IF his mother has hit him in the past depends on why she did it he may have deserved it…not a beating but spanking yes. My oldest daughter came to me for money when she was 16yrs old and i told her no and in return she called me a F**kin bitch and i slapped her in the mouth and she started yelling at me and then she called the cops on me. I told them yes i did and i’ll do it again if she ever speaks to me in that manner again and if he felt it necessary to arrest me to pls go right ahead cause i could use the vacation. She proceeded to tell him i beat her and when she couldnt produce marks he asked her to stop fabricating things to try and get what she wanted. There are alot of children outta control today cause parents are lazy and dont want too upset the realm and just give in which will always cause problems as the child gets older.
July 2, 2008 at 7:24 am
TV or no TV they would have been arresting me, I would have rung his fat nexk for even raising his voice.
July 2, 2008 at 11:12 am
I saw this episode of Dr. Phil and I heard the kid say that his mother has hit him several times. BOO F*@KING HOO. He is a child and she is the parent. If your does not listen to you then you need to beat it into them. If you let your child get away with things like this then your setting them up for disater. Some children you do not need to beat and some you do. soe things do not reguire a beating while others are a must. I guarrentee you if that mother had set solid boundries then that would not have happened. I am a single father of 2 and neither of my kids would ever think of raising there voice to me let alone their hand. That is one instance that i would have to call the police and tell them they have 5min to get to my house because I’m going to kill him. My mother used to beat me as a kid and now i thank her for it. It taught me that there are consaquences for my actions, My ex-wife let her oldest get away with anything he wanted to, guess what he is now in jail, 15yrs old screwed up his life and stays in there till he’s an adult and there is no doubt in my mind that he will be back in. I say this child should have gotten the shit beat of him right there on national TV
July 2, 2008 at 3:23 pm
That boy’s mother has never hit him. That’s the problem with the children today, they can do something that disrepectful to their parents, and then turn around and say that they did because their parents did it to them, and they’re off the hook because our legal system seems to only want to see the the fault in the parents. Our legal system is failing our children, but they call it ” HELPING OUR KIDS”, bulls-it
July 2, 2008 at 3:49 pm
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July 2, 2008 at 4:25 pm
I understand what the kid was trying to say, but camera or not, I would have taken off my shoe or belt and whipped his ASS!!!!!! No kid that I take care of is going to hit me and ask me how does it feel. HELL NAW!!!! There is a way to be heard and that was not it. I hope the mom did get a wake up call. If not, I feel for her cause it’s only going to get worse.
July 2, 2008 at 11:51 pm
mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
i woulda WHOOPED HIS AAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSs!!!!!!omg..you see there is a difference between abuse and jus discipline. now iunderstand this boy is in pain and he needs a different approach to work withh him, but one of these methods will be tearin that ass up for thinkin he could say “shut up ” with his finger in her face.. THEN slappin her!! AND THEN SHE AINT DO NUTHIN. if it was up to me. i woulda beat his ass then tore HER ASS UP too for not doing nothn
July 3, 2008 at 6:31 am
WOWWW!!! I would never do that to my mother. I am 11 years old and there is no way that i would ever do that to my own mom. Not even if I am 13, 15, 19, or an adult. I know better. I think that teenagers and children want to be equals with their parents. It is sad that the mother had to be slapped by her own child.
But one question?
Where is the father of this child?
My father is a sailor serving in the USS NAVY and he always tells us to respect our mother and elders. Like my mother’s favorite show says DEAL OR NO DEAL and there is no deal with disrespect.
July 3, 2008 at 9:50 am
OBVIOUSLY THAT CHILD HAS NEVER MET MY MOTHER. TO THE POINT, IT SEEMS THAT THE ENTIRE ‘TRUST’ THING FAILED IN THEIR RELATIONSHIP A LONG TIME AGO.
July 3, 2008 at 12:11 pm
vist me in framingham. (prison)
July 3, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Spare the rod and spoil the child period. As any parent raising children, we teach our children self morals and values and it’s up to the parent to enforce it. After a certain age a child know right from wrong. From the age of 1 to 5 a child is very impressionable. They do what they see!. If you curse or yell; what type of response do you think you’ll get? It takes a village to raise a child. Parenting is not easy. Today’s Mommies are WUSSES. I have no problems with my 16yr old son, who’s 6′5″, 214lbs. He’s knows that I’m NOT his friend, I’m his MOTHER and he will thank me later. Prayer and Communication is the key. I used to yell allllll of the time until I realized that when I was yelling he would be terrified with fear. Fear no one but GOD. I talked to my son and told him that I’m a new Mommy and that I was sorry. I never yelled at him again. We have a wonderful relationship. We all want to give our children everything and we don’t want to let our children down by any means. Don’t give up. Never stop loving your babies. Prayer is the answer.
July 3, 2008 at 4:18 pm
To all who might listen. I was given “good butt warmings” when I acted up as a child. I believe it did make me a better person, might not have liked them when they were going on but as I look back on the circumstances that made them happen, I was only spanked once wihtout deserving it. With that said, I did not raise my hand to my daughter but three times in her life, she was three, nine, and 14 years old. Did she deserve it those three times, sure enough did, was I able to converse with her after each and now that she is an adult, yes; would I do it again, better believe it. As with any situation there are times that you should and should not hit anyone, that includes a child. I will tell you this, at no time that I raised my hand did I ever do it when I was angry. That is what leads to abuse of children. How did I learn that, from my mother that gave me but whoopins’!!! She said she realized her children feared her hand because each time she raised it, even to caress them they ducked down to avoid the touch. Now even in that realization did she stop giving us spankings, no she did not, she made the determination that she would no longer hit us with her hand. Did that work, I believe it did. None of her children want to put her in a home now that she is 79 and she gets lots of visits from them. Do her kids love her, sure do, she wants for nothing and always has a table to put her legs under. Did all of us get our buts whooped, you betcha. The old saying my father’s mother had was, If I have to beat you twice for doing the same thing wrong, I didn’t beat you right the first time still holds true. Butt whoopin’ should never be done in anger and only as a lst resort. If you adher to those rules, the crap that kid did to his mother on national TV would not have occurred and they damn sure would not have need Dr. Phil. And oh yes, I am glad I was not nearby either, because I would probably still be at the hospital along with that kid because they would need to operate to get my foot out of his A_S for how far I would of put it up there for striking his mother!!! NUF Said!!!!
July 5, 2008 at 5:02 am
I was a kid once too, and I completely understand and respect why my father busted my bottom. I want to add that this is not a result of poor parenting, but of a whole world that is lacking values, morals, and altogether failing the child. God intended there to be two parents for a reason…anyone know where the father was? Well considering divorce rates I will assume that is the case since dad was not there to back the mother up. Child protection does have a part, but so do our schools, and so do our judges, as well as the rest of the world around him. In many divorces there is parent playing parent with the child to be stuck in the middle…and when they don’t get their way, well then they cry abuse and attempt to get what they can out of the other parent. Yet you have to watch your P’s and Q’s if you want custody, and to remain the custodial parent. I’m not trying to make friends with my child, but I do have to keep them safe…and in our senario of the other parents being drug dealers…I also have to do my best to make my home a place my child wants to live in. In this case…that behavior was completely unacceptable, and though I may not have reacted in front of the world…when we got home that child would find out real quick the difference between being the child and the adult…he would have lost everything until he earned it back by being respectful. If I didn’t donate it to someone much more deserving. He’d get two outfits…one to wash and one to wear I’m not even sure he’d get the benefit of using my washing machine. possibly I’d let him use the dryer…but if he could not care for two outfits then he’d suffer the natural consequence of his decision. There are other ways of teaching thick headed children.
July 5, 2008 at 10:40 am
I wish that kid was mine.I would have been in “PRISON”.
July 5, 2008 at 11:09 am
WTF!!!! Did you see how she just shut up when he told her to. WTF!!!!! My child would have been picking himself up off the ground if ever talked to me like that. I’m a mother of three and my middle girl is brave sometimes and raises her voice at me. Just the other day, we had us an old fashioned beat down cause of that. I would go to jail before I was disrespected like by a child. OH HELL NAW!!!!!!Over my dead body!!!!!! would a child slap me in the face and live to see the next day!!!!!
July 5, 2008 at 5:26 pm
When was this on Dr. Phil? I’d love to see what Dr. Phil had to say to that kid!
July 7, 2008 at 10:33 am
This child needs to be shown a firm form of discipline and taught respect for elders (his parents inclusive). However, as a previous reader/writer noted, he should also be shown that he is loved and respected by the parents even though he was corrected using a physical method (if that should be the case). All discipline should not be physical; however, in my opinion, some situations require it. I firmly believe that a child should understand exactly what they are being disciplined for and re-assured that they are no less loved because they made a bad decision. They are being corrected so that maybe in the future, based on the parent’s enlightenment of the path the child should’ve taken in a given situation, they will give their choices more thought before acting on them.
July 8, 2008 at 3:59 pm
This really shock me but I totally think there is more of what is going on on that boy’s life, he looks like he has low selfesteem issues and also his mom disrrecpect him to make him mind. i think he is hurting and he is asking for a mom to step in an put bounderies with love and respect. by no mean i think what he did is acceptable in any way but i think he needs self love and understanding that mom’s is backing him up in anything but that slap in the face went way way way on top of anything i would have ever done or any person that loves and respect his parents you have to know bounderies and i knew that as mad as my parents made me not to ever talk back in any way disrespectful or hurtful. I totally think this kid is being hurt at school or mom is not giving him the attention he needs and at this time a psychologist needs to step in for at lest a year to guide this kid into a normal young boy. i wish him all the best because if not we (society) have to deal with him later when he becomes an adult.
July 9, 2008 at 8:58 am
You see, that is why I love the fact that Im an African. Where a Childs ass can be whoped , but the truth is that if this child was brought up well he would not have degenerated to this level.
About beating can someone tell me if the beating your parents gave you made you a better person or made you hate them . The truth is that the discipline with or without beating that parents give makes you who you are and albeit a better person.
This Childs action is not just a result of his lack of correct upbringing , but this is as a result of The whole lot of Rights that America stands for and shouts about. When a child can pick up the phone and dail 911, for his/her parents for an ordinary spanking. When the officials will remove a child from the loving embrace of parents, when parent treat kids with kid gloves just to satisfy the authorities. When if you spank a child you enter trouble. When if you child cries a nosey neighbour dails 911 for you, when the Authorities love your children more than you love them.
Infact this is an abomination in my side of the globe, a passerby will stop on the road pick a cain flog an erring child whom she didnt know before.
A neighbour will correct your child and come later at night to report the child to the parents.
But by the way , is there anything like parenting in US anymore?, what does the word parent mean?. = Father and Mother ‘QED’
This boy is just a microcosm of the level of moral decedence seen in America supported by the Authorities on the basis of Human Rights, and orchestrated by Holywood et al.
The only solution for America is to got back to what thier founding fathers taught them , get the bible back to school. Get God back to thier system.
Glad I’m an African.
July 9, 2008 at 6:26 pm
OMG. I was so afraid of my mother. I knew if I ever hit her she would have knocked the snot out of me. My fear of course was probably unreasonable but it worked for her. I never disobeyed her and NEVER hit her!!!! YIKES. I gasped out loud when I saw this.
KUDOS to the mom for holding her composure. He is spoiled and needs to learn to control his emotions in a reasonable way.
July 10, 2008 at 6:08 am
First of all the mother looks afraid of this child. It is not his fault he is out of control. She looks afraid to confront him. Children sense when you are afraid and they act on it. He knows he can speak to his mother this way and there will be very little consequence.
The mother needs to take control and act like a mother “Spare the rod, spoil the child”!!!!! There is nothing wrong with your children being afraid of you. They should be afraid!! My child is 18 and she will never raise her hand or her voice to me. And believe I have not had to spank her in many many years. She learned respect when she was little and that has stayed with her.
July 10, 2008 at 10:36 pm
This is crazy. Parents are too concerned these days with being their kids friend. I am 31 and it is only after leaving for college and entering the real world that my mom became my best friend. Despite that, our family was, and still is close. I remember it only taking a single look for me to realize that I was doing something wrong and that I better stop if I did not want to feel her wrath. I am from a country where disciplining a child has only now become an issue. Where I am from, we got disciplined in school, from neighbors, and other relatives. I agree we should protect our children, I have one of my own. But how much protecting are we doing when we neglect to teach them the simple principles of life. RESPECT being one of them. Yes we say, you give respect to get respect. I’m sorry, that rule does not pertain to kids. They are suppose to do what they are told. The Bible does say “spare the child spoil the rod” and it also tells our children to “honour their father and mother” (Exodus 20:3-17). It sure had nothing in there about respect. My daughter knows at 6 years old what is expected of her. If she does something wrong that she is going to be disciplined for, I have her tell me what she did, and then what she should have done. That way, she knows why she’s getting it. Most of the time, it still just takes that look. I have also walk her around our beautiful house and her lovely room that she has to herself with all of her toys, tv, dvd/vcr player, computer, bookself full of books, etc, and tell her, if she decides to be bold enough to think to call CPS, I will make the call for her myself. But I make it clear to her that everything in the house, will stay in the house. I know she is only 6, but her dad and I find it necessary to instill these things in her now while she is young and pray that they stick with her as she grows. We have to put some sort of fear back into our kids, especially with the increase of peer pressure and media influence. As my husband (her dad) says, he prefers to discipline her now, tough and with love, than for her to be disciplined by police later. All I know is, with this kid, I might have been going to JAIL!!!!
July 11, 2008 at 7:18 am
His mother need to use some of that old school discipline, she can’t allow herself to be caught up in trying to be his friend. This displayed attitude of the child has probably happened before and she may have allowed it one to many times. It may be a little to much for her now because she has let him see that she can be taken advantaged of and pushed around. I don’t know why so many parents allow their children to talk back, she needs to kick off in his little ass and worry about the law official later.
July 11, 2008 at 8:10 am
Y’all know the Bible also says “He who spares his rod HATES his son, But he who loves him disciplines him promptly” Proverbs 13:24
I remember (vaguely) beginning to get into a shouting match with my mom (I was 15 at the time). The next split second, I blinked and I was literally laying under the kitchen table–I was shocked into SILENCE. My mother cooly walked away, and continued drinking her ice tea.
After I got up off the floor, much humbled and RESPECTFUL, my mother sat me down, and quietly gave me specific instruction on how I WILL respond to her in the future, and what she wanted me to do…AND I DID IT. I’m almost 60, and I still remember that lesson. That particular incident was a turning point for me. I believed myself to be my mother’s equal; she SHOWED me that day that I will NEVER be all the woman she is… and I am still not. My mother is 79 years old. I am strong, independent, stable, and so is my adult child.
Does anybody remember the documentary “Scared Straight”?…. That little gremlin needs it… and his mother needs a vacation.
July 11, 2008 at 7:48 pm
I WOULD HAVE LOOKED IN THE CAMERA AND TOLD THE POLICE TO COME AND GET ME NOW BECAUSE I AM ABOUT TO SPARE NO ROD TO THE FULLEST EXTENT.
July 12, 2008 at 4:38 am
Any mother who withstands this kind of behavior is NOT a real mother.
How could she sit there and take abuse from a child she is feed, clothing and sheltering? I hope Dr. Phil clued her in on how parnethood is supposed to work.
July 13, 2008 at 3:22 pm
WOW! I like how the Dr. Phil show added that sound bite as the slap occurred. It made the kid’s hand seem even more fat and fleshy! ROLMBO!
July 14, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Wow,
I was forwarded this email and did not see the episode, wish I had.
I have read all the responses hoping to take some learning and so called parenting skills away…and have this tid bit to say….
I am a divorced, single, very loving mother of a 5 year old boy. His father loves and sees his son “every other weekend” I am concerned with the way people phrase “because of his parenting.” I am going through some tough times with my child disrespecting others to include myself in that group. I have taken a look at my parenting and I believe that I am doing okay, with the exception of “I did not teach my child to be disrespectful but he is certainly showing just how disrespectful he can be!
I do wonder about how, what, and where this generation is learning such unexceptable behavior, I didn’t do it and I do not believe I am teaching it; but the attitude sure seems to be there!
Do onto others as you would have them be done to you?
July 14, 2008 at 10:56 pm
My 3 are adults. They were spanked, punished as needed, given chores and taught that their father and I had the last word. We taught respect by giving it and never punched or elbowed them. Our son is larger than his dad and would never consider raising his hand to either of us. The two oldest have finished college and the son is a senior, I don’t think we did bad considering two have learning disablities. We are their parents not their friends, we are who they turn to for advise and comfort. We have a solid marraige of values and passed that on to our childern as well. Parents must remember that their responiblity is from day one, not just when they are big enough to hit you.
July 15, 2008 at 2:06 pm
This kid will grow up to be a menance to society. I would have kicked that, you know what right on Dr. Phil. What did God say, “Spare the rod, spoil the child.”
July 16, 2008 at 11:46 am
I have 2, and 11 and 9 year old boy and girl respectivly. I am a single parent. I have taught them from the time they could speak that you can go through life with 1 hand. On each finger you have: MANNERS, DIGNITY, INTELLIGENCE, INTEGRITY AND RESPECT. If you have a decision to make just look at your hand and it will tell you what to do. And if you mess with any one of those fingers they will come together and create a slap that will toast your buns. I am not their friend I am their father and I will always show them the way. It can be the easy way or the hard way but in the end the right thing will be done. I hug them, I kiss them, I tickle them, and will fit my foot in their hind quarters if necessary. This process starts at an extremely early age and continues throughout. This child has taken advantage for a very long time and an attitude adjustment from my perspective should be sudden and completely accompanied with an understanding that though it hurts, his mother loves him. Obvously there are plent of underlying dynamics at play here.
July 16, 2008 at 11:46 pm
Nobody deserves their kids, more than the parents. If she won’t invest the time “now” that it takes to properly raise and train her child, then she will deserves whatever she allows.
July 21, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Well first of all that would never be one of my kids and second he would of been picking his lips up off the ground for the smart mouth and his finger would not be functional anymore due to the pointing. He needs a good butt whipping. Always respect your mother you only get one.
July 21, 2008 at 4:50 pm
This is a classic reason of how things have changed in the U.S. over the years. Today’s society is worse than when parents were growing up. Some of the blame goes to the system which prohibits parents from straightening out their kids the “old-fashioned way” and some goes to the parents for not establishing their roles firm enough. Unfortunately enough, society suffers as a result of how the laws are today. These unruly kids carry that “I got away with it” attitude around and end up being problems as adults. There is a fine line between whipping your kid and abusing him/or her because you’re upset with something they did. Leaders who implemented the rules, need to re-think their decision and understand the impact it has throughout the country.
July 21, 2008 at 7:31 pm
Where is the father? This is not something that just happened overnight this was brewing over years of not applying the right form of discipline. I know what CPS says but I follow what the Word of God says. I believe in spare the rod spoil the child so, I withhold not the rod from mine. As a mother of sons who have already outgrown me, I know how hard it is to raise boys. However, my will is stronger than theirs and I established long time ago that I am the mother and they are the children and we are not equal. I pray he is not repeating what he sees someone else doing to his mother. The bottom line is this child needs some serious help, a lot of prayer and a good ole old fashion butt whipping.
July 21, 2008 at 7:57 pm
I saw the episode as well, and it appears as if the mother is still grieving too much over the loss of her older daughter that she ignores the poor kid. It’s her own fault- his behavior is waking her up to be the parent she is supposed to be. He feels ignored and neglected. He is grieving in his own way too for his sister. This tragic event should have brought them closer, not futher apart. Other than that, we have no right to pass judgement on others- ESPECIALLY when we don’t know the whole situation. There is no excuse EVER to lay a hand on your child (in anger), as long as you’ve been the parent you’re supposed to be all along: guiding your child in a relationship of mutual respect and love.
July 22, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Take this and trun the people black. Then she would see what need to be done. A hold different picture.
July 22, 2008 at 4:39 pm
I WOULD HAVE WORN HIS LIL ASS OUT!!!!!! AINT NO WAY IN THIS WORLD HE WOULD STILL BE LIVING TO THIS DAY HAD HE RAISED HIS VOICE. OH HELL NO!!!!!! I WOULDVE TOOK A HAMMER AND KNOCKED DA FUCK OUT OF HIM!!!!! AND TOLD HIM IF HE WANNA CALL DA POLICE, FIND YO OWN PHONE, AND I WILL DIAL DA NUMBER FOR YOU!!!! HOW U LIKE DAT!
July 23, 2008 at 10:25 am
OH MY GOD!!!! I cannot BELIEVE this!! If I had tried anything close to that when I was a child, I’d probably just be waking up from my coma now – 30-something years later!!
Until and unless God does a rewrite, I’m going to assume He really meant those parts about ‘if you beat your child with a rod, it will not kill him’ and ‘who a father loves, he disciplines’ (probably not exact quotes, please forgive me).
But you know what? You can’t really fault the child. A child will do whatever he or she is allowed to do. This has been building and building, and this probably isn’t the first time he has raised his hand to his mother. It’s like stretching a rubber band. The more you allow it to stretch, the bigger it will get. The mother (and possibly father? don’t know-didn’t see the show) is/are entirely responsible for this child’s behavior. Absolutely no respect for his mother at all. And if he doesn’t respect his own mother, that brings down his respect for all adults. But I bet you, he probably has some relatives, or teachers, or SOMEONE that he knows he couldn’t pull this kind of stunt with or he’d find himself picking himself up off the floor. Children know WHAT they can get away with and WHO they can get away with it with.
This family needs a WHOLE BUNCH OF PRAYER!!
July 23, 2008 at 11:01 am
We have to also remember that kids do as we do not as we say! He was talking about how mother spoke over him and didn’t allow him to talk and elbowed him, which hurt him (left a mark and hurt his feelings). So, in return, that is how he is learning to act. I in no way would have stood for this and would have immediately walked away and let it soak in with him for a long time, otherwise I would have been arrested! Absolute disrespect! I am curious what his punishment was and what Dr. Phil says about the whole episode. Kids are kids and unfortunately they learn more from us than we think, they just apply them differently. Best of luck!
July 23, 2008 at 9:29 pm
The mother should have turned the other cheek. I mean she should have spun 360 degrees coming back with a hook, uppercut, and haymaker.
Then some other responsible adult should lay a hand or two on her for allowing a child to speak that way to an adult. Obviously, this ws ot the first time.
When I grew up the children asked the parents for timeout from getting their behinds wupped. Now the parents send the children to timeout instead of wupping their behinds.
Children are no longer trained that they do not have a choice of acting sensible. Non-conformancement physical re-enforcement from the parent.
Oprah-ology at its worst….
July 23, 2008 at 9:30 pm
The mother should have turned the other cheek. I mean she should have spun 360 degrees coming back with a hook, uppercut, and haymaker.
Then some other responsible adult should lay a hand or two on her for allowing a child to speak that way to an adult. Obviously, this ws ot the first time.
When I grew up the children asked the parents for timeout from getting their behinds wupped. Now the parents send the children to timeout instead of wupping their behinds.
Children are no longer trained that they do not have a choice of acting sensible. Non-conformancemence meant physical re-enforcement from the parent.
Oprah-ology at its worst….
July 24, 2008 at 12:18 pm
I was shocked and felt sorry for the mother. Knowing my anger at times, I would have hurt him! No respect whatsoever! I have a 20yr old daughter, 18yr old son, and a 14yr old dghtr, I wish they would! She held her control though, (the mother). See that’s why I don’t hardly ever hit my kids,cause I’ll hurt them. My daughter (20) has been vey disrespectful with me when she was younger, but now that she has a baby girl (14months), it will come back on her. So glad for Karma!
July 24, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Only in a white family could this happen! Black, Latino, West Indians, even American Indians (excuse me) Native americans would make sure he never ever raised that arm again!!!!
July 25, 2008 at 11:27 am
Yes, you need to understand why the son is as uspset with his mother as he is. Obviously he has some big issues. Why??? Not enough attention? Also, he is being given an opportunity to set down with his mother face to face in a situation that is not usually given, to be an equal, and express himself and how he truely feels. He may have never reacted this way under normal conditions. He may have kept it in and become our next postal, shooting up some place full of innocent people. After raising a son that thought he should be able to do anything he wanted whenever he wanted without restraints and no explanation you could give him was good enough to tell him his behavior was not acceptable, it is difficult to continue to show respect and not just react. My son enformed me at a very young age, 6 or 7, that because I had spanked him at all for any reason meant that I did not respect him, therefore, he did not have to respect me. No back up from the father until years later when I said I had had enough and would no longer deal with him. Then I had to pull my husband off of the child when he got the same treatment I had been receiving. Yes, sometimes it is a spoiled brat that has been given to much authority, sometimes it is a very strong willed child that just will not be controlled, sometimes it is an unattentive parent that neglects. We need more information.
July 27, 2008 at 6:03 pm
This is amazing, I just explained the problem with this to my kids while we watched this just in case they thought about trying it someday. Send mommy’s ass to me first for a week cause she needs to be reraised. Then send that kid to my house and I will set some rules of mutual respect, love and discipline in his life. She is raising this kid to be a damn unabomber.
July 29, 2008 at 4:34 pm
This is so sad. Obviously both mom and son need help desperately.
Again, spare the rod, spoil the child. I did not see the episode, but I
wonder how Dr. Phil handled it. They both need to be in therapy. I
have a 6′3′ 250lb. son who will not dare raise his hand at me for he knows I will knock the living deadlights out of him. But parenting starts when they are born. Love is the key. You must be very firm with children.
I just could not believe this child hit his mother. And she was still pleading
with him. Dr. Phil Where are you!!!
July 29, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Naw! Hell No!!!
No kid is going to talk to me that way and still be able to talk without knowing who is the boss. Let alone hit me. No way. As a parent, you are in charge. It is not your job to be the childs best friend and not a wimp that gives in at a little whining or crying. No means no and if that were my child, he would be on the floor after he raised his voice to me like that. He wouldn’t get a chance to slap me. That is what is wrong with America’s children today. Parents are too much of a pussy to teach respect. They are too afraid of agencies that the government has given the powers of God too. They let Doctors put kids on psyco drugs whether they need it or not and believe that their may be actually something wrong with their kid. The only thing wrong with most of these misbehaving rude disrespectful brats in America today is, they don’t get their ass spanked enough when they are a the rigt age before it goes too far because of chicken shit parents. There! I said it.
And before some of you social workers out there jump to conclusions, no I didn’t beat my children. I didn’t have to. I taught them respect and busted their little ass when they needed it. By the time they were 6 or 7 years old, they never needed another spanking. If they forgot who was in charge at that time, they lost privilages such as bicycles or stereos or video games. And they didn’t get them back until specified set time of grounding was over. This taught them honer and respect for rules and regulations and that Mom wasn’t going to give in to all the whining or complaining that it wasn’t fair. They learned that if they did something wrong, they had to give up something. They had more respect in their little finger than kids today have in their whole body. They are all grown now and have children of their own. They are very respectful adults and have some great kids as well. They will tell you that it never hurt them and they surely never got as many as they should have but they also never got one that they never needed either. Funny how just a small amount of discipline will do huh?
I’ll get off the soap box now. It just burns me up to know what pussys we have out there for parents nowadays. Geeesh! Mom Dad Grow Up!
July 30, 2008 at 2:14 pm
All of these comments: “I would have taken off my shoe or belt and whipped his ASS!!!!!!” and “Holy s*&(! That fat kid would not have gotten past telling me to shut up before I spelled respect all over him with bare hand!” ETC ETC You posters, you are all ignorant!
Can’t you see this child is just DEMONSTRATING how his mother treats him?! I’m sure he was coached through this scene to not hold back and to give her a taste of her own medicine. He is FED up!
This is the boy who leaves his house as soon as he is 18. (Or sooner) The one who treats women like crap when he gets older. The one with low self-esteem. The one with absolutely no idea what to do with himself because he wasn’t guided properly.
August 5, 2008 at 6:47 pm
hold up!! hold up!! wtf! is this world coming too i never raised my hand or voice tomy mom ever what the hell!!
August 7, 2008 at 3:47 pm
That was funny, but not amusing, the mom should have nipped this in the butt before it became to this point of disrespect.
August 10, 2008 at 8:18 pm
I would have ripppped that arm out of the socket and beat his ass with it!
August 14, 2008 at 9:32 am
Thank the Lord God Almighty I don’t have kids, and that my folks had only 1. If my kid did that, I’d probably be finding myself a good lawyer. Or better idea. I’d send that kid to Iraq or Afghanistan. Or, drop him off in downtown Baltimore and let him out drive off, no look back.
Respect given = Respect earned. Period. Obviously, if this mom really is the spineless fool she appears to be, than she deserves to lose points bigtime in the kids’ eyes. Yes, its a damn shame it came to this. A kid should never hit his Mom or Dad. But what do you expect if you don’t teach your kids respect and discipline (however its done)? Or if they got a problem and you ignore it? (Think Columbine)
Of course, some kids are stubborn to the core. In an argument with Dad once, I hit him squarely in the chest. Words had failed obviously and I was NOT about to back down. He hit back, Mom bitchslapped me. The only reason I backed down was to keep the roof over my head, at least till I was 18. Didn’t score them respect in my book.
August 14, 2008 at 8:45 pm
It looks like my prior post was removed. Ok, here ‘goes.
A kid shouldn’t hit his mom, but if she is doing a crappy job, she forfeits any respect from the kid (or anyone else). I mean, she
a) didn’t teach him respect,
b) let himwalk al over her,
c) let him eat too damn much, setting him up for such LOVELY health.
d) Ignored his obvious mental health issues
She deserved a bitchslap. Not from the kid but someone. And kids that troubled? Physical force is useless. Send them to an institution, boot camp, adoption, 3rd world, drop off in inner city. She didn’t do her job, and paid the price.
August 14, 2008 at 8:47 pm
EDIT: My 1st post was posted. My browser was being a bitch. Out.
August 16, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Hmm…hit the kid with the hammer? Whip his tail into submission? Not for this kid. That won’t do jack, except maybe get you lying in chalk once he heals up. Or at least a nice little cell for a few decades. Better idea:
Take him for a trip to the inner city, and drive him through all the rough neighborhoods. Have him work in a soup kitchen or halfway house for a week. Send him with missionaries to a war-torn or 3rd world country. In a week or less, he’ll be mind-whipped into respect. Simple, valuable, leaves not a mark. CPS can do their jobs, and he’ll be less likely to hunt you down for revenge later.
August 25, 2008 at 11:06 am
Mother of three. This is the next generation of kids. Thank the lawyers & law makers for taking our rights & ability to discipline our children (without abusing them) now kids have no respect for adults. I guess lawyers and prisons are going to have their hands full.
September 1, 2008 at 4:35 am
I agree w/Elsa. Children live what they learn. I learn’d from a very young age who the parents were, and what role everyone had w/in the family. I grew up in a 5 family home w/all relatives. This was in a neighborhood where, if your family weren’t home and the neighbor w/the one who saw you misbehave, well, it was @ their discretion to discipline you.
The “hood” was all about looking out for “ours”. You respect’d EVERYONE!!
Yes, I got my ass whupped PLENTY of times, and yes, I am a better adult and parent because of it.
My children are well behaved, I don’t know what they’ll do when I’m not around, but I know what they WON’T do when I’m not around. Get it!?
Know’g that they’ll have to answer to ME! Trust me, I know there were times and they may have wanted to say or do something, we’ve all gone through it, but knew to check it, keep quiet and keep it moving!
Yes, the mom definitely needs counseling. Has anyone every wonder’d, Where’s the dad? Is this they way he treats her? Then the son is just a trickle down. Did her father treat her mom and every other woman (that he could get away w/that shit) that way.
If this is her only child, then she came from abuse.
This family’s waters run DEEP!!
September 8, 2008 at 8:07 am
Pray for him and for me. Cause we’re both gonna need it. Him for feeling the wrath of feeling the first thing I could lay my hands on and me to get out of jail.
September 9, 2008 at 9:22 am
Smacking and hitting is not always the answer. Choking the hell out of their ass – is. My daughter hit me back one day, which I never thought that she would and I choked the hell out of her. Every gasp of breath she took, she thought about how it could very well be her last. The thing is, you want to scare the hell out of them and not leave any evidence. Show them who has the advantage and never appear afraid, it works, I’m telling you. We are the best of friends now, and she ain’t ever tried that sh*t again. LMAO – Happy parenting!
September 11, 2008 at 8:32 am
You can hear in the kid’s voice that he is troubled. There is definitely something within him that is causing this angry outward expression. Additionally, I question the mother’s ability to control the child. I’d bet that this is not the first time the child has been disrepectful. In short, I believe that society has fallen and our kids are one of its many negative manifestations. Additionally, I believe that every child should have the element of fear of their parents — not to the point of being terrified but just like we fear the wrath of our Heavenly Father so should our earthly children fear their earthly parents!
September 11, 2008 at 9:32 am
I saw this episode of Dr. Phil…even he said that he would have dealt with him–of course he didn’t say how..but when’s the last time you heard of any television psychologist saying it’s okay to spank you kids. The only thing kids learn from getting whippings is to be violent. That’s why there are so many violent people in prison–because people whip their children.
Parents for thousands of years have been getting the whole “dicipline-through-capital-punishment” thing wrong and now society needs psychologists and the US Government to determine the best way to raise sensible, productive human beings. (Are you hearing any crickets yet?)
Truthfully, thinking back, my mother wasn’t the nicest person in the world. I always felt she was jealous of her children and the relationship between the siblings. She yelled, screamed and cursed you out–and beat your ass to boot, but yet in still, it would never have occured to me to do those same things TO my mother–I just would never have. Even though she had plenty of short-comings as a mom, I still respected her as my MOTHER–as the person who gave birth to me. Through all that damn yelling, she still bought me cloths, cooked me diner, made sure I wasn’t barefoot going to school and came to my track meets.
Not everybody’s personality and patience is suited for motherhood, but if you happen to have one, still, you don’t disrespect her. I think mothers do the best they can and you should respect them for they do do.
Off the soap box…now, as for that video…I’d have kicked that ass, gave him the phone to call the cops, went to jail and when I got out that night, kicked his ass again–gave him the phone again and dared him to call the cops…he would have gotten my drift…
September 30, 2008 at 8:43 pm
There are some serious underlying issues within her household obviously. I am a mother of three children and I can’t even imagine one of them ever speaking to me in that tone let alone slapping me in the face. She needs to pray and ask the Lord to keep her from going to jail or putting her child in the hospital.She also needs to seek spiritual guidance and counseling about how to raise her son and how to “get a backbone”, some strength, or something. It’s obvious that she needs help. You can see it through her child’s behavior.
October 27, 2008 at 1:33 pm
i would beat the s,,,,,,t out of him
March 9, 2009 at 1:36 pm
I would beat the living shit outta that kid, I’d beat his ass til he one big blob of puss, I’d beat the fat outta him, then when he was outta fat, I’d beat the living outta him, and when he starts bitching at me, I’d slam a sledgehammer onto his nuts and feed his ass to the cats. Cats got nine lives worth of feeding.
July 6, 2009 at 10:47 pm
I know a Nigerian family who had an out of control child. His grandfather slapped the boy and the boy called the police on him. His mother finally became convinced that the United States was not a good place to raise a child so she took him back to Nigeria with her. The boys grandfather was waiting at the airport and as soon as the boy got off the plane the grandfather spanked him several times and pointed at the nearby police and said “Go run over to those Nigerian police over there and tell them that your grandfather was spanking you and see what they do.”
Child abuse is unacceptable, but the idea that spanking is bad came into popular culture with absolutely no data to back it up. American culture is overly permissive and we are falling behind other cultures who understand the difference between parent and friend.